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What brings you forward the most, what hinders you in living life like you want to do the most is other people.
Show me your friends and I tell you who you are.
Every human being is basically worth the same as every other human being.
But one can't live like that, you can't *like* everone the same. And it seems that I found my major criteria for liking someone. Phantasy, of course, but also how the person deals with his or her phantasy. And maybe even more important: Ideals. I want people to think about who they are, where they stand and where they want to go. I want them to have an idea of a perfect self, who they ultimately want to be. While judging people it seems to be more important to me what the person wants to do and not what he or she currently is doing or even what he or she did in the past.
I want to be able to know a person and their ideal self. Better yet if they are aware of their own personal ideals and try to reach them, consciously. I am a sucker for free will anyway. Conscious decisions, yes. It's like everybody is a raw diamond, some are washed and maybe even cut a bit by parents, old friends, social status etc. But mostly we'll have to make ourselves shiny. Cut stuff away to free the inner fire. And did you know, if a diamond cut is too shallow, light is lost out the bottom, if it's too deep, it escapes out the sides. Nice metaphor, eh?
There's of course a side effect of this: I'm a fan of truth, too. So if someone keeps on telling tales about his or her ideals without ever trying to reach them, it's just that: tales. That's like planning what to do if you had a million dollars or if you could be fifteen again, but with the knowledge you have now. That's not really wanting to learn more, to improve. Actually, having no ideals is better than having them and not doing anything about it. Because if the first is the case, maybe you never got the notion to think about something like that and you still have the potential to become a cut diamond.

By the way, the age of fifteen seems to haunt me these days. Everywhere I look characters are fifteen and decide for the first time who they want to be. It's such a crazy age, such a chaotic time of finding, losing and being in-between. I don't envy my sister at all for having to go through this starting the end of next year. I'm much happier to having discouvered my first laugh lines around the eyes this morning while smiling at the mirror. Like every line makes me a more refined person, completes me somehow. I'd rather live in an old house with history and the traces of lifes lived in it than in a sparkly new one, and isn't the body the house of the soul? But yeah, easily said since the scales were very nice to me this morning. I'm getting there, wait and see, I'm achieving an over ten year old goal.

You should always expect more from yourself than you do from others. So it's okay to want them to think and plan, in my case, because I'm doing that very, very much indeed. But I also want people to be less egocentric, and I'm not sure if this is in fact fair.

I'm still mourning because I had to bury my idea of a perfect flat sharing group. It could have been so much more, it could have been living art, pushing each other further along toward happiness, being true to ourselves, really seizing the days. If only all four of us would have been willing to dare change. Risk losing something to gain even more. If only our priorities would have been the same. But alas, it wasn't to be.
I get cranky when I have to think for others, plan for others. Don't ever tell me you're too busy to think about keeping up with the things you more or less promised to do. Communication, people. Tell me we'll have to rethink some chores and I'll be all ears and smiles. Just don't do them because it 'just doesn't work' and I'll be beyond pissed. I'm noones training ground, not without explicit permission.
And I have to say, I'm totally floored if you're not doing your utmost to care for pets which are so very very vulnerably dependant of you.
On the other hand I learned that I'm able to tolerate some things I'd never thought would be okay for me, like people too afraid, absolutely disoriented, helplessly fighting the windmills of their minds. People thinking about the past, about should haves, would haves, could haves. Dismissing people far too early, expecting the worst of them, of the world in general. People fighting with their ideal selves about the right to be here, people at war with themselves. I know these kinds of struggles, intimately, so of course I'm able to tolerate them.
But here's the problem: I can't tolerate closed minds anymore, I can't stand people using up my time and my energy while nothing is gained, spiritually, ecumenically, grammatically... even in the long run. I don't want to be taken for granted. I don't want to run after you to ask you repeatedly if you'd maybe let me help you.

But isn't that very egocentric behaviour? I shall never stop asking that question. I hope I'll never do too little for people without meaning to. Okay, that sounds weird, I mean, sometimes you start syhing back from someone, but that's on purpose, because that someone hurt you, deceived you or just slowly walked away from you on a different path of life. (Btw: I know I myself have to do more to keep up with old friends, I really hope I'm up to the task these coming weeks)

Damn, I don't think I'm expressing myself really well, here. I wish I could write as well as I can talk. My point is, your ideals are part of your core, and if I see you having them I'll admire you and feel a lot more for you than without them. I wish everybody could see how your own ideals shouldn't crush you because they're not who you should be right now this very instant (and you don't fail if you aren't). They are a part of you, part of what makes you special and worth more and beautyful.
That doesn't mean I can't like people without ideals or with very tiny ones. But I can't love them.

Ideal Fuchs right now is way above my current reach. She's flying higher, seizing more, ignores all the stupid things occupying my time and my thoughts and, of course, still twelve pounds lighter than I am. She humbler and more relaxed, too. Serene, maybe.
And maybe I'll never be her, not all the time, nonstop. Ideals aren't goals to reach, they are lighthouses to guide our way. And if I can just expand the time in which I'm nearly her, if I can just increase the days that are spent in her ways, I'm mightily proud of myself.
Dad tought me that trying doesn't suffice. Mom told him she'd be trying all the time and she never really was. So I'll have to take his hurt into account and change the lesson some: Lying about trying doesn't suffice. Really trying does, though. The path is the goal etc.

The narrow ridge I'm walking is being proud of trying, but without growing arrogant about it, without stopping on the path unconsciously. Looking down on other people does that to me. High and mighty, helping them oh so fucking generously. I have to look up to other people. I have to concentrate on what I can learn, not on what they can learn. That's a much happier way of thinking anyway, because I can't make anyone understand anything but myself. And I don't need no more self confidence, really, I somehow seem to have gained loads of that in the past few years.
Thing is, I'm trying to surround myself with people that are like me or a bit above my level of achievements. That makes me *sort* people. That makes me impatient with people that lack, in fact, life experience. I really have to stop that. It does me no good to think like that, it rather tips me over to one side of the narrow ridge. I have to concentrate on my core more while letting others be. They'd make it easier to reach some goals, but they can't hinder me, not really. Yeah, I still wish for a synergetic effect, but I can't let that be my excuse. Waah, waah, nobody else dreamt my dream, so I can't follow it? Fat chance.

Januaries generally don't like me, and I don't like myself in Januaries. That seems to be because I actually do make New Year's resolutions, well, I rethink my general resolutions and goals, take stock and the like. But every February I look forward again.

...

Oh thank GOD the sun came out *just* now! Three days of sunshine in one and a half month is way too little for me! Makes me brooding, makes me tired, makes me sad. YES! The sun came out! Up, up and awaaaay!

I think I should translate my entries again.

Date: 2007-02-15 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allamistako.livejournal.com
This might suprise you, but ...

*Hug* I like you. And I think the "ideal you" sounds nice as well. Scary amount of parallel thoughts...

Date: 2007-02-15 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damanique.livejournal.com
Heh... I don't hold others to such high standards, or I'd like to think I don't. But it takes a great deal of strength and intelligence to take that step of using your life to improve yourself, to set ideals and strive to achieve them. Most people don't have that. ^^

Well, I totally know what you mean. My now ex-bf has a mind as closed as a frigging fortress. He doesn't strive for anything, has no ideals for himself, doesn't listen to the help or criticism of others. He was stuck wanting to stay a powerless teenager forever, avoiding all responsibility. It completely clashed with the 'new' person I am, someone who like you thinks about who they are, what they're doing and where they want to go. People like that... ultimately frustrate me.

But I realize that many people, although not striving for self-improvement as much as we are, are not close-minded either. They're normal people, without much issues or troubles. Many of my friends and family are like that and I don't think any less of them for it. That's the arrogance you speak of, right? Looking down on people doesn't do much good, because a bloated ego gets in the way of decent self-reflection...

Either way, I know it's the more intellectual, intelligent individuals who approach life the way we do. It can make things better, but also a lot more difficult. (I'm reminded of this site (http://www.stevepavlina.com/).) Did you know that when it comes to romantic relationships, intelligent people tend to be single a lot? It's hard to find someone who you can accept, and who can accept you, when your level of thinking is so different.

But I'm rambling.

I like your diamond metaphor. ^^

Date: 2007-02-15 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchs.livejournal.com
I think I try to think more of people who do strive to something but not think less of those who don't. You know? I like normal people, I really do. Some of my oldest friends are truly lovable persons with no goals at all. I don't despise normal, I'm comfortable with it.
But people who self-improve I admire, I'm excited about, I sometimes love.

Anyway, you're totally right, it's rare, it's difficult, it's hard.
And yes, this is exactly what I'm warning myself about in this entry, this kind of arrogance. The path between 'liking normal and being excited about spark-people' and 'priding myself for being sparky and looking down at normal' is very, very thin.
Part of truly being a self-improver is to never think of myself as done. Perfect. Even: better than others.
Maybe I'm further along the way than most, but not worth more. Especially since I do seem to still have to find a way to be proud without being arrogant. :D

And about romantic relationships: Do you know any male human who's like that? I just know they have to be out there, but I can't seem to meet any. And I do know, wait, 6 girls like us, probably more I forgot right now.

Date: 2007-02-15 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] damanique.livejournal.com
I know two males like that, they're both married to women just like that. XD Darn.

I think I still see too many weaknesses in myself; I don't know. I'm always wondering whether I'm being arrogant, or actually too humble.

Date: 2007-02-15 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchs.livejournal.com
Well, that sounds better than me, I'm only wondering if I'm arrogant. Sounds like my fear could easier be true than yours. XD XD XD

Date: 2007-02-15 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wulfila.livejournal.com
You unwittingly chose a time-honoured metaphor with your diamond comparison. The medieval text I taught about this past semester, the "Annolied", compares the way a person is changed in the course of his life to the way a precious stone is cut and polished. Of course, being a medieval text with religious components, the metaphor gets extended to god as the goldsmith, but still, it is essentially a similar idea.

Anyway... You write:

I'm still mourning because I had to bury my idea of a perfect flat sharing group.

To a certain extent, I can understand that feeling of being sad that a friendship, even a person, did not live up to your expectations - but precisely because I understand it, the only advice I can give you is not to expect too much of others. Of course, you can define what you need in a person you can like, respect or even love, but there is no easy recipe for making certain that you will meet precisely that kind of people. Even people who seem very promising at first glance can turn out to be not what we expected, or can change for the worse.



Oh, and even though this may disappoint you after what you have just said: I have no idea whatsoever of an "ideal self". A much improved self? Why, certainly, yes. But an ideal self is something that is not easily defined, not even as a goal that one will, perhaps, never reach. Defining a truly ideal self would send me brooding for days, as rather too many factors figure into this. I guess that is just to say that I am always careful when it comes to descriptions in absolute terms. ;)

Date: 2007-02-15 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchs.livejournal.com
"You unwittingly chose a time-honoured metaphor with your diamond comparison."
Well, damn, and here I thought I had a shiny new thought. ;D

"not to expect too much of others"
Yeah, that would probably be wiser. But I digress very easily into not thinking too well of others. ;) Another narrow ridge to walk upon.

And about an "ideal self": You're right, really defining one would be like finding out who one truly is. Virtually impossible. It's a very shady figure, such an ideal, more like a feeling, perhaps. I don't need people to define their ideals, not really. But one can search for them and try to reach those aspects they already figured out.
Anyway, you're totally right, used an absolute term without further explanation of my use of it. My bad. :D

Date: 2007-02-15 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenheart.livejournal.com
Wow, das ist wirklich ein interessanter Eintrag, wenn ich mal meinen Senf dazu geben darf.

Ich persönlich finde es immer schlimm, wenn Menschen in ihrer Entwicklung still stehen und nichts mehr lernen wollen - entweder weil sie zufrieden mit dem sind, was sie sind und haben, weil sie schlich resignieren oder zu faul sind. Egal warum, man kann doch immer an sich arbeiten und lernen, und das sollte man auch tun. Das erwarte ich von den Menschen. Das kommt dem Streben nach einem Ideal - wie du es oben beschreibst - schon nahe, finde ich.

Date: 2007-02-17 10:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchs.livejournal.com
Genau, das ist so ziemlich, was ich meine!

Date: 2007-02-16 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vout.livejournal.com
Ich habe Angst, dass ich wieder etwas sage, wo wir uns missverstehen, oder schlimmer noch, genau verstehen und dann sauer aufeinander sind. Aber trotzdem.
Vielleicht hilft es dir, nicht auf Leute, die scheinbar keine Ideale haben, nach denen sie streben, herabzusehen, wenn du dich daran erinnerst, dass sie welche haben könnten, die du nur nicht kennst, weil du nicht in ihre Köpfe reinsehen kanst.

Date: 2007-02-16 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchs.livejournal.com
Na, das habe ich nicht dazu geschrieben, weil ich es für selbstverständlich hielt: Es geht natürlich nur um tatsächlich nicht vorhandene Ideale. Immerhin kann man ja mit Leuten reden, und wenn diese deutlich sagen, dass sie keine Ideale bzw. Ziele haben...

Date: 2007-02-17 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allamistako.livejournal.com
Aber eigentlich hat doch jeder ideale, oder? Nicht unbedingt große, bei manchen sind ja die ideale auch nur, "Ruhe haben vor dem Troll", aber ideale sollte eigentlich jeder haben...

Wie gehtst du mit menschen um, deren ideale im gegensatz zu deinen stehen?

Date: 2007-02-17 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fuchs.livejournal.com
Das wirkt jetzt ziemlich so, als hättest du meinen Eintrag nicht wirklich gelesen. Wie ich Ideale definiere, steht eigentlich recht gut drin, und unterscheidet sich offenbar fundametal von der Benutzung des Begriffes in diesem comment von dir.
Ich zitiere mich mal selbst:
"Ideals. I want people to think about who they are, where they stand and where they want to go. I want them to have an idea of a perfect self, who they ultimately want to be. While judging people it seems to be more important to me what the person wants to do and not what he or she currently is doing or even what he or she did in the past."
Es geht also um persönliche Zielvorstellungen, um ein ideales Selbstbild. Dass es existiert ist ein Kriterium für mich, wie es aussieht, und wie damit umgegangen wird.
Dabei geht es nicht um Einzelaspekte, also Ziele á la "Ruhe vor dem Troll" oder "Besser Autofahren". Es geht ganz explizit darum, ein ungefähres Gesamtbild zu haben. Ein verschwommenes Gefühl von der Person, die zu sein man das Potential in sich trägt.
Kann das persönliche Idealbild von jemandem in einem Gegensatz zu meinem persönlichen Idealbild stehen? Meiner Definition nach nicht. Es sei denn natürlich, jemand möchte schüchtern, blöd, fett und arrogant sein, aber selbst dann möchte derjenige ja nicht das Gegenteil von meinem Idealbild sein, denn dann müsste er oder sie ja eine schüchterne, blöde, fette und arrogante *Fuchs* sein wollen. (Wobei ich mit diesen Worten ein hypothetisches Idealbild schon vereinfache, was eigentlich viel zu Komplex ist, als dass man es mit so wenigen Worten beschreiben könnte.)

Date: 2007-02-17 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allamistako.livejournal.com
Gut, unter dem Gesichtspunkt betrachtet hast du natürlich recht. Ich bin (mal wieder, das wird langsam zu eienr schlechten angewohnheit...) von einem anderen gesichtspunkt an das ganze rangegangen...

Date: 2007-02-17 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zimtkeks.livejournal.com
That's a highly interesting post. And I admire your clear view on your own goals and relationships.
I think I partly know what you mean. I'm more of a philosopher than some other people, too, thinking about the world, other people, myself a lot, trying to get to know the reasons and motives and so on. At some point, I realized that I am way more comfortable with people I can look up to and learn from. But I think that's normal. It's our nature to learn, so we search for people who have achieved something that we're still trying to reach.

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